Comments on: Garmin Oregon 2.86 Beta – Forget About It

By: Allan

Allan — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:19:06 +0000

To me 2.93 and 2.94 are not to recommend.i own two units Oregon 300,i ran both software on these two units side by side and even 2.94 still do not do the job.The two units shuts down on routing on road and off road.The new features from 2.94 are ok

By: Al

Al — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:24:09 +0000

I have the same trouble as ED talks about but my GPS is a Oregon 400I. the roads around my house somewhat disappear after panning from left to right (sections are missing). But after disabling the inbuilt US Inland Detail Map with Imagery. The sections of roads are displayed as they should. I updated the software to Beta 2.93. When I go from 0.2 mi I have all the roads, but zoom out to 0.3 mi and all roads disappear, like the City Map took a “hike”. Upgrading did not solve the trouble.

By: Garmin Oregon 2.93 Beta Available - GPS Fix

Garmin Oregon 2.93 Beta Available - GPS Fix — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:13:59 +0000

[...] changed so it seems like Garmin is still trying to tune GPS performance after the issues with the 2.86 beta. Let us know if you see any issues by posting here or on the Oregon wiki discussion [...]

By: Scott

Scott — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:58:11 +0000

That works fine as long as the internal bluecharts maps are always the lowest priority map loaded on the unit. In that case if you have Topos or City Nav loaded they would always take precedence IF they are available at the zoom level you are using. Since this doesn’t seem to be the case based on your initial experiments it would seem that Garmin needs to fix one or the other.

IMHO they should never disable the basemap on the unit (regardless of the enable/disable state of the marine map). I’m pretty sure that is what they’ve done on the 400t and it makes more sense than relying on the precedence of different map types.

By: Ed

Ed — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:57:55 +0000

I’ve suspected from the beginning that this is a layering problem that is only associated with the Blue Chart maps when they are in the unit’s internal memory… so would only apply to 400c units. If this problem had occured in the 400t or 400i I think there would be a lot of people complaining.

By: Ed

Ed — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:52:29 +0000

From what Garmin’s Customer Service said earlier today on the phone, I should not disable the Marine maps at any time, regardless of the profile because they are the basemap. Customer Service Tech. said he would try to replicate the problem tomorrow. Curious to see what he finds out after conferring with Software support.

By: Scott

Scott — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:11:15 +0000

I thought about this a little more and maybe this is a bug with the 400c built in map. I was assuming on my 400t that the basemap in Automotive mode comes from the City Nav maps (so that when I’m zoomed way out the performance is good) and it would work the same for you on a 400c.

But if the basemap in automotive mode relies on the unit’s built-in basemap (in my case it would be the basemap included in the 400t topo maps, in your case the 400c maps) then disabling the built-in maps should not disable the built-in basemap (they really should be treated as two different maps). I would talk to Garmin to see if they agree with this.

By: Ed

Ed — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:37:46 +0000

Hi Scott, Thanks for the reply. Under Setup>Maps>Detail is set to Normal. If I disable the Marine maps in any profile then yes the CN Street Maps and/or the Topo maps do appear at all close in zoom levels as they are supposed to. But, with the Marine maps diabled, the unit has no base maps and won’t zoom out more than the 50 mile zoom level and the map redraws are extremely slow. Is there anything that I may be missing with this new unit. I’ve contacted Garmin, but no response yet on replicating the problem.

By: Scott

Scott — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:41:20 +0000

In your first two examples (Automotive profile and Recreational profile) I’m surprised that disabling the Marine maps doesn’t work. Topo and City Nav both should have base maps that become visible as you zoom out and should require the Marine maps to be enabled. Are your Map Detail settings under Setup>Maps set to “Normal”?

By: Ed

Ed — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:13:36 +0000

(Oregon 400c)
Just got a 400c and it will not show U.S. Topo v3.02 or City Navigator NT v8 maps when zoomed in a lot and the basemap (Blue Chart) is enabled. Topo and CN are loaded to micro sd card. Anyone else experiencing the same thing???

Ex. in Automotive Profile with only CN NT v8 and U.S. Marine g2i v2.51 enabled my street detail appears at zoom level 0.2 miles, as I continue to zoom in all street detail disappears at zoom level 500′ and I only see the Blue Chart base map. In Setup: Detail set to Normal; Shaded Relief Off; Text Size set to Medium for all choices; Zoom Levels all set to Auto.

Ex. in Recreational Profile with only U.S. Topo v3 enabled and U.S. Marine g2i v2.51 enabled all topo detail is lost at zoom level 0.2 miles and is no longer viewable (only the Blue Chart base map is viewable) until zoomed out to 0.3 miles. All Setup settings are the same as stated above.

I can Disable Blue Charts (base map) and I can view the street detail and/or the topo detail all the way down to 20 ft. zoom level but then I can’t zoom out beyond zoom level 50 miles, without a base map, and screen redraws are very slow. I had tried both beta versions 2.85 and 2.86 and 2.80 and get same results on all versions.