Garmin chirp Review
Updated 11/4/10: I’ve added a chirp FAQ page on the Garmin Oregon wiki if you are looking for more detailed help with your chrip.
After getting my hands on a Garmin chirp this morning I’ve been able to play with the tiny transmitter to see exactly how it works. The chirp is a simple wireless beacon that transmits a small amount of pre-programmed information to a compatible Garmin GPS within proximity of the chirp. Aimed primarily at geocachers, the $20 device should be an exciting addition to both new and existing geocaches and well as some creative non-geocaching uses (I’ve bought an extra one to put on my key chain).
Programming chirp
When you receive the Garmin chirp it is erased so the first GPS which connects to the chirp can program it. Programming the chirp consists of enabling chirp on the GPS (Setup>Geocaches>chirp Searching) and sending the chirp a name, a “message” and set of coordinates. The programming controls are found under Setup>Geocaches>Program chirp. This can be done by setting each field manually or by using a waypoint or geocache to transfer the information all at once. The chirp will take on the name and coordinates of the waypoint or geocache selected. The chirp message field is programmed with the waypoint note or geocache hint. The chirp name is limited to 9 characters and the message to 50 characters so the amount of information stored in the device is fairly limited. It takes about 30 seconds to program the chirp once you start transmitting to the device.
Garmin has done an excellent job with security. Once the chirp is programmed it becomes locked to the GPS which programmed it. After that no other GPS can reprogram the chirp unless you have the last 5 digits of the unit ID of the GPS which “owns” the chirp. I was able to swap control between my units without any issues but in general it seems secure enough to discourage people from stealing them or tampering with them in the field.
The GPS which “owns” the beacon can also erase the chirp. This puts the device back into its original unprogrammed state so it can be programmed by another GPS.
Placing the chirp
Based on my testing you really want to have an unobstructed view around the chirp to get best results, placing it up high also seems to improve range. When I placed the chirp on one side of a tree trunk I would consistently connect within about 20′-30′ if I was facing the chirp. However, with the tree between me and the chirp I had to be within 5′ to receive the alert. If the chirp is in a metal container like an ammo can it won’t register until you open the container.
Finding the chirp
Once the chirp is programmed it is constantly transmitting its information to any GPS within range. Users searching for the chirp must enable chirp searching on their GPS and when they get within range for about 10 seconds the chirp data is automatically downloaded to the GPS. The Oregon/Dakota geocaching dashboard has a chirp status which tells you if chirp searching is enabled and whether you are in range or not. This feature is not available on the GPSMAP 62/78 geocaching dashboard.
When you view the chirp you see the name, message and coordinates as well as how many visits and when the last visit was made. You can then “Go” to the chirp (similar to a waypoint) and this will be begin navigation to the programmed coordinates. The chirp coordinates are saved as a special waypoint but the message is not preserved in this waypoint and you can easily overwrite the chirp waypoint when you encounter the next chirp. Garmin should provide a way to save all of this data permanently once you move out of range and turn the unit off.
Battery Life and Other Details
Garmin claims the replaceable CR2032 lithium coin cell will last a year and work in cold weather. One really nice feature is the warning you will get on the GPS if the battery is getting low. The unit is small (1.3″ x 0.9″ x 0.3″ / 3.3 x 2.3 x 0.7 cm), lightweight (< 1.o oz / 28 grams) and feels solid. It comes with an IPX7 waterproof rating which means if you drop it in water or it gets rained on it will still work, Garmin does not recommend submerging the chirp.
Software and Compatibility
The only chirp-compatible units are the Garmin GPSMAP62/78, Oregon (300, 400 and x50) and the Dakota 20. The Colorado does not seem to be supported even though it features the wireless ANT protocol which chirp is based on.
You’ll need to update your GPS software to use the chirp. Updates were made available this morning and can be installed using Webupdater.
If you are having problems connecting to your chirp with this software go to Setup>Fitness and disable the heart rate monitor and cadence sensor if you have them enabled. My Dakota would not connect to chirp because it was configured to search for an HRM. I’ve submitted this to Garmin as bug.
Pricing and Availability
The chirp is available online at REI for $19.95.
Summary
While I wish the chirp was capable of holding a little more data and cost about half as much but I like the way Garmin is thinking. This is one of the most creative new products we’ve seen from Garmin in a while and its been done with typical Garmin focus on simplicity and ease of use. Time will tell if the battery life, range and field durability is good but I like what I see so far and can’t wait to get my first cache out using chirp — hopefully tomorrow!
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October 15th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
You incidentally revealed a nice improvement to the geocaching dashboard in the required new firmware.. Cumultive finds, last found date, and the diff/terr ratings are now displayed. Nice.
October 15th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Robert, I think these changes were picked up in the last release but you might be right, Garmin has been doing a lot of tweaking to the dashboards recently.
-Scott
October 15th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
[...] If you haven’t heard about Garmin Chirp yet, or if you have and you want to know more, check this out. [...]
October 15th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
I was running the last production f/w on my 450 (I skipped the betas) and didn’t see this until today. I think it’s new. I could be wrong.
I’ve wanted a GPS to answer the “how many have we found today” question for years. At least with some (annoying) manual intervention – why can’t they compute numbers based upon the most recent 24 hours, at least four hours of whch had no logs? – the new f/w will finally give it to us in a reasonable manner.
My Chirp is on the way. I may epoxy mine to the Magellan pendant on my keychain. It’s not perfect in every way, but it’s _different_ and I respect innovation in this biz.
October 16th, 2010 at 6:12 am
Groundspeak does not allow you to use these as designed. Copy and paste reviewer note on my cache submission……I’m afraid the new Chirp device is something very exclusive to Garmin, which brings it into conflict with our commercial guidelines. To be publishable, the cache needs to be findable with any type of GPS device, and the Chirp method must be optional. Please come up with an alternative option to do this cache which does not require a Chirp compatible device. After you have done this, please enable your cache and I will look at it again.
Thank you for your understanding,
Geocaching.com Volunteer Reviewer
October 16th, 2010 at 6:54 am
@towtrkdug, thanks for the post.
My chirp enabled cache approval was also delayed yesterday but it was a more nebulous “we checking on it and will let you know in a day or two”. Personally I think this is a very bad decision on Groundspeak’s part if this is going to be their official policy on chirp. They will (again) come across as closed and unsupportive of allowing new and creative ways to make the game interesting. This is a growing reputation they’ve been fighting for a while now.
The fact of the matter is that there have been special equipment caches since day one, so I don’t buy the exclusivity arguement. Wherigo is a prime example since only users of the same set of Garmin chirp compatible GPSs could find those caches (yes there was a PPC variation of the player but no one used that). But even caches that require boats, scuba certification, rock climbing gear/expertise are similar and probably even more restrictive than chirp – I’m guessing the percentage of cachers using these GPS is fairly large and growing. I also don’t buy the commercial conflict aspect either – if Garmin was publishing geocaches using chirp I would see that as self promotion but we are talking about geocachers buying and placing these on their own. I would hope that other manufacturers might come up with similar ideas.
I’d like to understand what is really going here.
-Scott
October 16th, 2010 at 8:18 am
I agree, it would be disappointing if this becomes something that Groundspeak ends up denying because of their commercial requirements. Still, it should be in Garmin’s interest to make this open source so perhaps with the right firmware updates Delorme and Magellan users can participate. That said, there is likely nothing that would ever get a device like the Geomate (which they, GC.com, promote heavily) to utilize this technology so there will always be those who felt left out.
October 16th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
What are other geocache-listing sites think about chirp powered caches? If groundspeak doesn’t want it, let them alone…
October 16th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Colorado was sold as geocaching dedicated unit. Lacking Chirp is unhonest.
October 16th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
About allowing the Chirp in a cache: I plan to use it (when there is a chirp coming this way), but I want to set up an automated email-reply for cachers without a Garmin device. And if I write that you’ll need a Chirp-enabled GPS _or_ email sent/recieve, I think it will be ok. Time will tell.
October 17th, 2010 at 2:03 am
As a possible distinction, there are Whereigo parsers for smartphones, laptops, etc. It doesn’t *require* the Garmin hardware.
I suspect “Chirp enabled” and “Chirp required” will be seen differently by the house.
October 17th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
@Scott…your argument about caches requiring hardware doesn’t wash. Yes a cache may require a boat to get to it but it doesn’t require a specific brand of boat to find it. The Chirp is a cool little gadget with some great possibilites but being Garmin specific to being able to find a cache is still a no no. Wherigo’s are another thing I never understood. When they first came out it was Garmin only until the iphone apps came out. I still haven’t found any and don’t ever plan to.
-Jason
October 17th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
You would think Garmin would have already checked w/ Groundspeak BEFORE launching this product. Not very good research and implementation team. Someone is going to possibly be fired over this!
October 17th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
I really don’t understand the part about a device being vendor specific and why that should limit its use on GC.com. Why does that necessarily have to be a bad thing?
-Scott
October 17th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Yes, that does seem to be the direction it is going, although Jeremy seems to be leaving that door open on the question of a new cache type/attribute for “beacon caches”. Personally I think a new type is overkill an attribute makes much more sense to me.
http://tinyurl.com/2b7qk9e
October 17th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
I agree that opening up the interface to chirp would go a long way to making most people happy about this and it would seem to eliminate Groundspeak’s “one vendor” equipment arguement. It would seem possible to develop an iPhone app using the iPhone ANT module that did something similar.
October 18th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Garmin chirp , i have the oregon 450 , do you have to have the chirp , in order to see this in the gps menue ? , Garmin chirp setup geocache chirp searching ?
i have the latest firmware, but dont see this option in the list.
October 18th, 2010 at 9:00 am
If you have the 4.0 firmware (Setup>About to verify) you should see the chirp config options under Setup>Geocaching.
-Scott
October 18th, 2010 at 9:02 am
nevermind found the update !
October 18th, 2010 at 9:17 am
thanks ! all working
October 18th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
[...] Product details for the Chirp are available on the Garmin site, and there is a great review over at GPS Fix. [...]
October 18th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Problem solved by Groundspeak. Adding attribute.
October 18th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Before buying one of these to use in a geocache, cache owners should be aware that the announcement of this product caught the folks at Groundspeak TOTALLY flat footed. Garmin provided no prior warning. Groundspeak has very quickly reviewed this gadget, and based partly on the fact that the receivers are sole sourced (only certain Garmin handheld GPS units can receive and understand the content of a Chirp transmission), have arrived at the following compromise in their use. Per Jeremy hisself…
“Garmin didn’t tell us about this product. We only became aware of it, by accident, two days prior to the public announcement.”
and per Groundspeak, the following will apply as of this morning:
Here is the current plan:
1. A new attribute for a “beacon” will be added soon. Any caches that use a Chirp (or any future similar device) should use this attribute.
2. If a cache owner puts a beacon in a traditional cache and geocachers have an alternative method to find it without using the beacon, then OK. I remind you to use the coming attribute.
3. If the cache owner insists on not providing an alternative means of finding the geocache, it must be listed as a mystery with the beacon attribute.
4. Cache descriptions may mention the “Chirp” as long as the text doesn’t go on and on with “overtones of advertising, marketing, or promotion” as per our long-standing commercial guidelines.
5. We do not plan to add a new cache type just for this.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:44 am
Was able to grab what was left of these yesterday @ my local REI
32° 55.583′ N
96° 49.949′ W
What I find funny about all this hoopla is this ANT technology is older than dirt! Even bluetooth is newer! OK just because Garmin puts out a new “proprietary” device, everyone thinks this is some kinda of new technology! Next week when Magellan says there device will use bluetooth you will understand why garmin did what they did! We have been using this technology way before Garmin even thought of buying out Dynastream years ago! What took them so long to release this product is obvious… they need to protect there stuff from the competition…
Now lets get this straight Garmin will NEVER share or open this up to any other co. They don’t work that way never have never will! Groundspeak is in the right! Why would anyone think any co in the world would share any products inter workings with any other co especially a competitor. Also why would groudspeak freely promote Garmins new product with no advertising kick backs… Seems pretty obvious! It’s a business not a democracy!
October 19th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Hi Lonestar-
Actually, this is based on the ANT+ protocal – and is indeed already open to any ANT+ alliance members…which…btw, includes Magellan…and about 300 other companies. It’s part of the Geocache Node Device Profile.
Agree though that in many ways a BT-enabled one makes more sense in terms of immediate widespread availability to phone-users, though ANT+ dongles and chips are making there way into smartphones now.
October 21st, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Bluetooth low energy? seems a whole lot better idea to me.. but after reading more into the future of ANT+ i see the possibilities but still think there’s better technology to use.. ANT it self is pretty old we know that…
October 22nd, 2010 at 2:51 pm
[...] has even managed to get some good reviews very early on. The Chirp brings to they actual cache a level of technology that I think technology crazy [...]
October 23rd, 2010 at 9:27 am
Here’s my experience with my first chirp, with photos, over on my livejournal:
unboxing
programming
I’m using an Oregon.
After skimming your review, I realize that on my Oregon, I was NOT asked or offered to set a PIN.
I guess I won’t put it out in the wild until I find out what’s up with that.
October 23rd, 2010 at 9:30 am
Oh, okay. Now that I read yours in detail, I understand. I only have one chirp and one compatible GPS so I can’t verify the security. I’ll have to take your word for it. Thanks for posting the review!
November 15th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
I have a question about using this for something other than Geocaching.. does the chirp have to be set to a specific gps coordinate? I have a boy in my life that has autism and runs.. I wonder if this little thing could be something we attach to his shoes and we could use GPS to find him? or since geocaching is about a set location.. does it only work with a static gps coordinate or if it were moved, could the nearest gps find him?
November 15th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Terri,
I’m not sure chirp is going to do what you want. You need to be in close proximity to the chirp in order for the GPS to detect it. 30′ is the recommended distance, which I’m guessing if you are looking for a child won’t be so helpful! You may be looking for something like a GPS tracking device. If you need help go to http://www.gpsfix.net/contact/ , send me a note and I can help you get started.
-Scott
December 4th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
I am trying to get a cache that has just been published here and it is using a chirp. But I am only using a Garmin 60Cx unit. Is there any other method in which to read the Chirp?
December 6th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Ross,
Unfortunately there is no way to use your 60cs for chirp. It does not have the necessary wireless interface to communicate with the chirp device. My chirp FAQ: http://garminoregon.wikispaces.com/chirp has the compatible GPS devices listed.
-Scott
December 7th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
[...] (former?) partner Groundspeak. Much of this became evident around the time Garmin released the chirp, apparently without any forewarning to Groundspeak, a sign that things weren’t well between [...]
December 19th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Hello, and thank you for an informative website!!
I have a question to the geocaching dashboard that you showed in this review; is it possible to have this dashboard on an oregon 300? If so; how do you set it up?
regards
Bjorn
December 21st, 2010 at 7:50 am
Check under Setup>Maps>Data Fields. On the x50s (and I think the x00′s) I think you’ll see two geocaching dashboard selections (Geocaching-Active and Geocaching-Nearest). I forget which one it is but you can switch back and forth to see if it is available on the x00.
-Scott
April 9th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Groundspeak says they do not want a cacher to be required to have purchased a vendor-specific geocaching implement to find any particular caches (as per above). What is the difference between that policy and providing the ability for cache owners to make their cache a ‘member-only’ cache? Seems that is vendor-specific in that I must pay my $30 to groundspeak to have those caches become available to me. Two-faced?
If it is not vendor-specific, then can I donate my money to Scott above and have the ‘member-only’ caches become available?
-David
April 10th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Since Groundspeak own’s the listing site I believe they specifically exclude themselves from this “vendor-specific” clause.
-Scott
April 18th, 2011 at 11:19 am
I have a chirp and am wondering how people are setting them out in the world. There is no hook or easy way to do it. Epoxying it a rock (or something) would not allow a battery change. Any ideas/
December 28th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Hi,
I wonder as it wasn’t clearly explained.
You put one chirp on your key chain.
As I understand you will be able to find your lost keys if you are within the range of the chirp but what message or information would help you find the keys from 30′(10m) away? Does compass or something on geocache dashboard indicates chirp’s direction from you (gps device)? My dad would certainly gain from having a chirp on his key chain if it would point exactly to keys location…
Perhaps I didn’t get the hiding meaning of having chirp on your key chain.
December 29th, 2011 at 7:46 am
The chirp just gets you into the proximity — you would still need to do a search. Most useful if you drop your keys some where along the trail (rather than in the house)!
-Scott
December 29th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Thanks Scott, I did once indeed lost keys in a city somewhere on the street between parked cars, I was drunk and I didnt have chirp nor GPS and also forgot which way I was exactly going. I guess special conditions apply in case of loosing keys.
Was just looking into buying one chirp to try out but they are way to expensive for its limited use.
I live now in Colombia and using chirp for geocaching is rather risky as people steal everything no matter if they can use it or not, not well educated on this side of things. Creating cache in woods for chirp to be on higher ground (a trunk) would do the trick but not everyone uses chirp compatible GPS device.
I will just have to wait for something better to come around.
March 30th, 2012 at 3:29 am
Looking at the info above “The only chirp-compatible units are the Garmin GPSMAP62/78″, i found it doesnt work on either.
However if it as an “S” or “ST” on the end then it will work.
I found this out after reading this site and then buying a GPSMAP 62 to find it didn’t work unless someone knows something i don’t.
June 13th, 2012 at 4:16 am
I programmed my chirp using an Oregon which broke. I have a replacement Oregeon but how do I reprogram the chirp when I no longer have the unit number of the orginal Garmin.
August 5th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
I think you’re out of luck. Get a new one. FWIW I’m in the same boat. I have a chirp cache out there, had my oregon replaced since placing it, and the chirp battery needs replacement – I hope the chirp holds its data when the battery gets replaced, or I’ll have to get a new chirp. Fortunately there’s a REI about 5 minutes from my chirp cache.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Can the Chirp move once it is programmed? I am looking for a system to use for GPS hide and seek type games. Any ideas?? I am hoping to find something with a continuous signal or one that can be sent periodically with a GPS receiving the signal in real time. The signal also would need to be greater than 40′ though to keep it fun.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Yes, you can move the chirp after it has been programmed. Its simply a device that will transmit a small amount of data to a Garmim GPS when you are within proximity to it (usually <10-15′).
-Scott
September 14th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Thanks…I forgot to ask…is there a fee related to the use of it?? I purchased a SPOT and realized that there was a yearly fee.
September 14th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Nope no fees!
-Scott